Hi Everybody,

Here I am one more day to review my Perpetuum Poker experience.

Today's topic is a really interesting one because I'm reviewing the players I play against everyday in this Entraction skin. Before going any further I'd like to say the next three things:

- I am as bad player as the worst poker player ever. My comments here are based upon my observations in the poker table and by no means I think that I'm better player than my opponents.
- I will try to avoid applying qualificative adjetives such as bad, wrong, awful, etc to other players. When I use them will be referred to poker theory (eg 72o is a bad opener UTG).
- I'm sorry in advance if anybody is hurt by the words I say. Is not my intention to criticize, I just describe what I see and what's my opinion about, so peace to everybody :).

And after all the said and done lets start:

Even I haven't played a ton of games I can say one thing: they are the weakest players I've player ever. Why I say this?  Look:

Game # 2046686674 - Texas Hold'em No Limit 10/20 - Table "Tournament Table €1,000 Guarantee 9795685 2"
Players(max 9):
renpan                      (2,420.00 in seat 2)
hergoher1                   (3,080.00 in seat 3)
runninggood                 (2,328.00 in seat 4)
demattese                   (30.00 in seat 5)
e92967t                     (5,227.00 in seat 6)
pbp-dennis                  (5,175.00 in seat 7)
charliedi                   (2,595.00 in seat 8)
fabione1966                 (2,185.00 in seat 9)

Small Blind:                runninggood (15.00)
Big Bling                    demattese    (30.00)
charliedi was dealt:        4c - 4h
e92967t                     Fold       
pbp-dennis                  Fold       
charliedi                   Raise       (90.00)
fabione1966                 Call        (90.00)
-------------------- Ok till here ------------------------------
renpan                      Fold       
hergoher1                   Raise       (390.00)
runninggood                 Fold       
charliedi                   Fold       
---- 300 to call to win 390 + 90 + 90 + 45 -> 300:615 ~ 1:2 and I need 1:8 so good fold ----
fabione1966                 Call        (300.00)
---- Same reasons apply, and given his hand strenght he should be more decided to fold ----
Flop                        8s - 8c - 2c
fabione1966                 Check      
hergoher1                   Bet         (457.00)
------------------------ Standard ---------------------------
fabione1966                 All-In      (1,795.00)
---- WTF??? Check Raise All In 70bb with 33?? In the early stage vs a 3bettor after an Early Open + Call?? ----
hergoher1                   Fold       
fabione1966                 Payback     (1,338.00)
Turn                        8s - 8c - 2c - 6c
River                       8s - 8c - 2c - 6c - 9d
fabione1966 shows:          3c - 3s (two pairs, Eights and Threes)
fabione1966 wins:           1,694.00 side pot (with two pairs, Eights and Threes)
demattese shows:            As - Jh (a pair of Eights)
fabione1966 wins:           135.00 main pot (with two pairs, Eights and Threes)
Game ended 2011-01-23 18:22:06 CET


Game # 2046733988 - Texas Hold'em No Limit 25/50 - Table "Tournament Table €1,000 Guarantee 9795685 7"
Players(max 9):
sergei1                     (629.00 in seat 1)
DanituBcn                   (5,153.00 in seat 2)
fabioCi80                   (1,455.00 in seat 3)
claudiu123                  (3,368.00 in seat 4)
maurinio77                  (3,590.00 in seat 5)
charliedi                   (2,385.00 in seat 6)
St_Pedro                    (3,980.00 in seat 7)
Nille__P                    (2,690.00 in seat 8)
Cassiopee                   (4,075.00 in seat 9)
Dealer:                     charliedi
Small Blind:                St_Pedro    (25.00)
Big Blind:                  Nille__P    (50.00)
charliedi was dealt:        Jc - 7c
Cassiopee                   Fold       
sergei1                     Call        (50.00)
----------- 8 BB deep and limp, will you be limp-shoving? -----------
DanituBcn                   Fold       
fabioCi80                   Fold       
claudiu123                  Fold       
maurinio77                  Fold       
charliedi                   Raise       (200.00)
----------- Big mistake, thats why I can't be writing this and playing at the same time -------
St_Pedro                    Fold       
Nille__P                    Fold       
sergei1                     Call        (150.00)
----------- ??? will he shove any flop? ------------------
Flop                        2s - 9s - 3s
sergei1                     Check      
charliedi                   Bet         (475.00)
------------ I'm sure that if I bet he folds ----------------------
sergei1                     Fold       
----------------- Unbelieveable ------------------------------
charliedi                   Payback     (475.00)
charliedi didn't show hand
charliedi wins:             475.00
Game ended 2011-01-23 18:34:50 CET

That's what I mean. If I would open the chat and ask:
Hey guys, what would be your range for *?
I'd get this:
range? what is this? what is a "range"?
Ok, maybe not everybody, but I realize the mayority of the players doesn't understand one of more of this things: Position, Stacks, Stage; Betting Patterns -> Ranges. They will call a shove 70bb deep in the early stage of the tourney with Second Pair Second Kicker and will limp fold BvB with 6 BB and a Kx hand in an unopened pot.

They doesn't know what a Push/Fold strategy is and what hands should be shoving and when. Of course, I can call his 9d5d 10bb shove with my AhQh and lost, but at least I'm getting the money in good.
And not only Push/Fold ranges are missing. I open UTG with ~30BB, somebody 3bets me in late position for 12BB, I 4bet shove and he calls with A9o. A9o!!! Can you believe it?? And ovbiously he won to my JJ but ok, that's just variance. The key is that this happened in a $75 + $75 tournament, we are not talking about micro stakes where players dont know how to play, this is a very decent stake so... it makes me think.

All of this is something to take into account when playing. let's say we have this situation:
A player in early position open for 3x and everybody folds to me. I 3bet 10BB in the button. both blinds folds and he calls. We are both deep (50BB at the begining, now 40BB). Flop is
As7c3c - he checks and I cbet 11BB (standard move isnt it?) and he calls again. Now turn is:
As7c3c5c - and now he donk shoves!! Oooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuu Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!
In the short term I've been playing here I've learned that a big overbet means a busted draw or a small pocket pair or air or the nuts. So, what can I do here?? I put more than 1/3rd of my stack, so I'm commited but... I'm getting it in good? I know that is as likely that he shows AcJc as 44 so is a tuff decision.

So what's the solution? You guessed it: Adjust!! But how? Tighten Up! They are very loose players and there are no antes (I will talk about this in other post) so the best thing to do is wait for a good hand and then bet strong hoping the suckout machine is off.

Thats all for today. Hope you have a good week and good luck at the tables.

See you soon!